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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2013 15:03:01 GMT -8
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Post by The Homeless Guy (admin) on Oct 7, 2013 13:55:37 GMT -8
Here is something I wrote on my blog ( thehomelessguy.blogspot.com) a while back, concerning panhandling: He is dirty, smelly, and intoxicated. And though no one openly acknowledges his presence, he makes it known with his incessant requests for money. It is a scenario that plays out on an endless loop in cities all across America. Yet most people have no idea how to respond. As a self-proclaimed advocate, I field a lot of questions about homelessness. More than any other subject, people want to know how to deal with panhandlers and if they should give to them. My short answer is no, do not give them anything. While this may not sit well with some homeless people, nor with some homeless advocates, I have my reasons. Within the total homeless population, panhandlers are a small minority. And of all panhandlers, not all of them are homeless. Even the homeless who do not panhandle find panhandlers to be a nuisance. Panhandlers are just as likely to panhandle other homeless people. And the non-panhandling homeless know that they are often judged negatively by the actions of panhandlers. Of the panhandlers with homes, most are usually living in less than desirable conditions. But that does not mean they panhandle as a means of improving their situation. Nearly every act of panhandling is inspired by an overwhelming desire for drugs or alcohol. In all likelihood the money, food, and whatever else is given to panhandlers, will only go towards aiding and abetting the illness of addiction. Often called “a slow suicide,” addictions can kill. And I, for one, do not want to contribute to anyone's untimely demise. I do not think any sane person would. Panhandlers have more contact with the general population than any other segment of the homeless population. And, it is the panhandler you will find most often publicly intoxicated, urinating and defecating on sidewalks, yelling and fighting in parks, and committing other acts of anti-social behavior. Most of the stereotyping and other negative impressions of homeless people come by way of panhandlers. Additionally, the act of panhandling is degrading and humiliating. Putting one's self through such a demeaning exercise, day after day, must develop within panhandlers a great deal of self loathing, which could easily turn into a total disregard for all people. It seems a natural digression that panhandlers become the most anti-social homeless people. Yet, when sober, if only because their panhandling efforts fail, they behave not unlike other civilized people. In desperate times I have considered panhandling. Yet, I was never able to bring myself to do it. My needs were never significant enough to debase myself in that manner. But I do have empathy for those who have. And I do all I can to encourage panhandlers to get the help they need. That begins with saying no.
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Post by Alan Prokop on Oct 8, 2013 8:37:16 GMT -8
My view : I could care less if someone is asking for change or money. I think we have a lot more important things to worry about than the unfortunate asking for change in front of stores.
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Post by The Homeless Guy (admin) on Oct 8, 2013 11:33:48 GMT -8
My view : I could care less if someone is asking for change or money. I think we have a lot more important things to worry about than the unfortunate asking for change in front of stores. In relationship to life the universe and everything, homelessness really can seem like a small issue, but it is certainly not insignificant. The homeless are very much the "canary in the coal mine". What happens to the homeless signifies what is coming down the track for the rest of society. A society is judged by how it treats the least of its citizens.
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Post by joesbo on Oct 8, 2013 18:28:10 GMT -8
Not all homeless who opanhandle - beg - are alchoholic/drug-addicted . I do so, and I am not.
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Post by joesbo on Oct 10, 2013 10:00:50 GMT -8
RU Homelessnews News SAN DIEGO? I had the impression,somehow,that U were HL News SOUTH DAKOTA! Of course,the title of this Board:-)...
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Post by dman on Oct 10, 2013 23:11:49 GMT -8
i have panhandled in college to pay for food. I was unemployeed and it was the only way I could get money to buy food. The people giving me money put food in my stomach and I have never been more thankful in my life. Give to panhandlers if they look legit. Don't give if they look like addicts.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 9:04:04 GMT -8
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Post by The Homeless Guy (admin) on Oct 11, 2013 9:28:52 GMT -8
I don't know if asking for food/money for food while in college could be considered "panhandling". I've been in tight food situations before too, such as in college, and became rather creative (and somewhat illegal) in the ways I came up with to get food. But, I was not homeless at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 17:42:34 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2013 4:42:11 GMT -8
The panhandling stories just keep coming. On the surface I actually think some of this is a good idea. But then I have to ask "isn't some of this stuff already a crime under existing laws?" I have seen horrible behavior by shoppers in stores and the clerks threaten to call the police. Is this any different? And then on the other side of the argument is the fact that many cities relax laws on people who are homeless because of their circumstance. Leads me to the conclusion that if we just solved homelessness we could get on with arresting criminals without regard to whether they are housed or not. www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/10/new-jersey-panhandlers-permits_n_4078529.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003
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Post by The Homeless Guy (admin) on Oct 12, 2013 8:14:40 GMT -8
The law makers are not taking the time to figure out what the root problem is so to address it, but instead are lumping all kinds of people and behavior into one meaningless and inaccurate group, and then labeling the whole group as criminal.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2013 16:20:10 GMT -8
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Post by David Dambach on Oct 27, 2013 15:37:57 GMT -8
Here is something I wrote on my blog ( thehomelessguy.blogspot.com) a while back, concerning panhandling: He is dirty, smelly, and intoxicated. And though no one openly acknowledges his presence, he makes it known with his incessant requests for money. It is a scenario that plays out on an endless loop in cities all across America. Yet most people have no idea how to respond. As a self-proclaimed advocate, I field a lot of questions about homelessness. More than any other subject, people want to know how to deal with panhandlers and if they should give to them. My short answer is no, do not give them anything. While this may not sit well with some homeless people, nor with some homeless advocates, I have my reasons. Within the total homeless population, panhandlers are a small minority. And of all panhandlers, not all of them are homeless. Even the homeless who do not panhandle find panhandlers to be a nuisance. Panhandlers are just as likely to panhandle other homeless people. And the non-panhandling homeless know that they are often judged negatively by the actions of panhandlers. Of the panhandlers with homes, most are usually living in less than desirable conditions. But that does not mean they panhandle as a means of improving their situation. Nearly every act of panhandling is inspired by an overwhelming desire for drugs or alcohol. In all likelihood the money, food, and whatever else is given to panhandlers, will only go towards aiding and abetting the illness of addiction. Often called “a slow suicide,” addictions can kill. And I, for one, do not want to contribute to anyone's untimely demise. I do not think any sane person would. Panhandlers have more contact with the general population than any other segment of the homeless population. And, it is the panhandler you will find most often publicly intoxicated, urinating and defecating on sidewalks, yelling and fighting in parks, and committing other acts of anti-social behavior. Most of the stereotyping and other negative impressions of homeless people come by way of panhandlers. Additionally, the act of panhandling is degrading and humiliating. Putting one's self through such a demeaning exercise, day after day, must develop within panhandlers a great deal of self loathing, which could easily turn into a total disregard for all people. It seems a natural digression that panhandlers become the most anti-social homeless people. Yet, when sober, if only because their panhandling efforts fail, they behave not unlike other civilized people. In desperate times I have considered panhandling. Yet, I was never able to bring myself to do it. My needs were never significant enough to debase myself in that manner. But I do have empathy for those who have. And I do all I can to encourage panhandlers to get the help they need. That begins with saying no.
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Post by David Dambach on Oct 27, 2013 15:44:51 GMT -8
I think panhandling is terrible, I was homeless for more than five years, pan handlers give every homeless person a bad name. Because so many people see the panhandlers as being homeless, they assume that most people who are homeless panhandle. It really hurts when people see that you are homeless and don't want to give you the time of day because they think you are going to beg. I never could bring myself to beg .
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